Wow, wow, wow-oh-wow. You are spewing mantras like a madman and contradicting yourself. I understand that right now, you believe in Amway. I’m not telling you that you shouldn’t, but anyone that has a brain will realize that is not going to do anything but waste years of your life.

I’ve explained this before:

You invent a product that no one else has. Let’s call this Product A. You sell Product A with a 50% markup and make a nice profit.

- or -

You find a company that created Product A. They decide it is better to not advertise, but instead hope that regular people on the street can act as affiliates and sell the product for you, for a small percentage, say 4% of the markup. You make little, but the main company rakes in the funds and you get no where.

If you want to have a real business, why not contact manufacturers of various products and sell those instead of Amway products? Buying wholesale products from China and selling them on your own website can rake in the funds. My friend helped someone do this and he became a millionaire in a year.

The point is you are a tool by all definitions when you are suckling the teats of Amway. You can not succeed, unless you spent years conning others to join under you and sell them the dream.

Let’s make a bet, shall we? I bet in 2 years, you will not be active with Amway. Prove me wrong. Here is your chance to prove that what you believe is worthwhile.

Now let’s begin and end it today our conversation. After going through all the discussion from my writing below you or anyone should not have any questions or concerns about any doubt if you are intelligent enough. Remember, intelligent people look at something before they make any decision, I hope you are an intelligent person and whoever reading this blogs.

If you or any readers want to clear any questions after today please contact me directly on my cell# (xxx) xxx-xxxx and I will be glad to speak with you 24/7. I will be more than happy to answer you or any of your concerns. Please don’t expect me writing back anymore or answering any questions here this sites. You know my number just call me if you need to clarify anything from the right source about any facts or figures for any help to give you about Amway/BWW opportunity. I really don’t have time write blogs that usually I don’t do, we leave that for negative people, and if you want to fail in anything just follow their footprint/writing and you will end up one, congratulations. So far I did for benefits to those I wanted to safe from critics like people who write negatives about anything from their own opinions with no values to people who are successful. I heard from one success principal, success is about helping people live better lives. And success is a choice.

For your record, skills can be taught and learned but your character cannot that you come up with. And ambitious people carry these three qualities, 1) if you have a genuine need, 2) willing to listen, and 3) willing to change, to qualify to work with us and having your own business. We can help you succeed or we pass if you don’t qualify. No harm, we just disassociate with people who don’t have a dream, no intention to listen and change is required to have a great life from a good life.

No Exit everyone should not be an Amway affiliate IBO. People having their own personal choice to do whatever they think they can do. Amway is nothing but a very successful company holding 50 years track records, over $9,000,000,000 (Billions) dollars market and 17% growth from last year concentrated with health care, home care, skin care, and partner store giving people opportunity to having their own business powered by Amway so people can create secondary source of income and having a legitimize business with total integrity and honesty. If you are not honest you will fail in this opportunity and please leave the IBO-ship. Do something else.

Those who are not Amway IBOs are not losers. I don’t say that. Remember one thing, those who are successful in this business opportunity are willing to listen and in business journey willing to change are winners. Successful people learned to value people. Losers are those who falls into the crap of internet negatives or critics and got their dream stolen by other people’s opinion without looking onto the opportunity by themselves are silly. You cannot learn from failure how to succeed. And you cannot learn how to succeed if not willing to fail over and over. People who quit on dream fails on anything.

No wonder you have only very limited knowledge about Amway opportunity. Amway is a very large industry making over 450 exclusive patented products for business of businesses that people need daily basis. And they don’t spend money on advertizes but concept of giving people who has a dream of making money affiliated with Amway and having exclusive rights to market their products. There are few ways we business owners make money, sell the products make money, create organization and helping other business owners sell so they make money and we make money based on the compensation plan. And Leadership income reach to the top %’s and help other people do the same how we make big bucks. Simple but not easy, there is no free lunch, cannot make money overnight, like many people not willing to change and listen from beginning. But some people do stick with it and succeed. This business opportunity is not for everyone. Those who qualify can run a huge business and get wealthy. All about you who make a choice and make the decision to succeed and learn who to follow the footprint. My business website is password protected and only qualify person we meet can see the full presentation and my retails website from the company is exposed legally to create some customer just like Amazon retail website does. We have exclusive rights to market their product. If you are not hungry you would not look for a restaurant right. So if you don’t want to make money doesn’t matter how big the opportunity is. In beginning I was also skeptic but I was not stupid.

Any business you do you need people and people either buy products or services. We have both. Please read some positive mental attitude books which help you answer your 1000s questions and concerns about leadership. This is not only a business it’s a creating a life. And you cannot put a price tag on your own freedom.

We don’t try to convince people to get into the Amway business, it’s a wrong thing most people do and fail. I don’t have to impress you by telling how much I make from this opportunity affiliated with Amway having my own business in e-commerce powered by Amway. The business plan is simple you do the work follow the BWW system (just like having a college degree you do study and go to college) the success footprint is there and you do succeed if you listen and change your employee mindset to a business owner mindset. See the successful people Billionaires don’t even have a college degree like Bill Gates, Sam Walton, Larry Wilson, McDonalds owner, all they have a dream and focus to move on in life with vision and stick with their decision. You need change and follow the success principal you would succeed. Or stay in 98% side 9-5 until 65. 2% people are well sufficient at the age 65 and wealthy.

This opportunity should require a mentorship because we work as a team and someone has done it before you. And great part is BWW provide a free mentorship. Leadership business all does need a mentor to follow the footprint to succeed. Or if you have a self employed all you by yourself in your own business you don’t need a mentor. You are your own mentor. Don’t mix match just a business (own idea) with Amway/BWW opportunity. Read the blog over and over again to understand or call me I have your answer but you cannot effort me. I make more money than you ever can imagine in lifetime to make which is a personal freedom to get financially free. We are not anybody’s boss, we also work for ourselves but we do follow a support system that’s all just like going to college for learning and get educated as long as we want, to have a successful business. After certain time our presence don’t require to run our business with Amway because it’s a time leveraging and private franchise business help three people succeed what they want to make 6 figures income and help 6 people do that and you make solid big 6 figures income which are residual in nature and be free rest of your life and three generation will get that income willable and inheritable by the Amway corporation. Why you would join the Amway opportunity if you don’t like what you see. You have to do the proper research about the company, people, and future what you can provide for your Family. If your chemistry matches with the opportunity and get qualify for it then you can able to join. The best thing is this is an equal opportunity for everyone and not a rocket science. We don’t judge people. We try to help in the beginning and depend on who you were with if not with the successful IBO you will fail and get the wrong impression about everything.

I am glad that your name is Exit and left behind. But you are a common world to me. The truth is you are in the mainstream. Learn the power of giving. I don’t know about other people but I should not lie.

Doesn’t matter how I write my thoughts. It’s all about what you write.

Last but not the least’s, keep your own warning to yourself. Don’t write anything else and give crap to others from your writing unless you first check yourself from the mirror. And ask inside the mirror whoever you see what else he or she can teach you to succeed for more in life and touch other people succeed. Success is helping people live better lives. Not help yourself get rich alone.

I end up with this “how many people are better off because you lived.”

1. Should everyone be an Amway IBO?

2. Are you saying that those who are not Amway IBOs are losers?

3. What do you sell if you say that you do not sell Amway’s key products? (Your website links off to two different sales pages for Amway products, so I’m confused why you said you don’t sell energy drinks or skin care products. Oh wait, is the reason why you don’t sell these things is that no one is buying?)

4. Are you buying products from Amway? If so, are you doing so to maintain your point value?

5. If you feel comfortable, how much do you net from Amway in a month? (Minus your expenses and any products you bought from yourself.)

For the record, I do not need a mentor. I have a real and profitable company which I run and I have no one over me. I work for myself, as much or as little as I like, and sell a service rather than a commodity. This means that I have very low operating expenses. I would *never* consider becoming an Amway IBO.

My name is ‘Exit’ because I have left behind the common world. I have removed myself from the mainstream. I do not need to impress anyone or make myself appear positive. I also have lived my life with principles and brutal honesty. I have no reason to lie about anything, unlike most people.

Also, for the benefit of the reader, please try to break your response in to paragraphs as it is tiring to read one large block of text.

Lastly, you are not authorized to advertise on this website. Please refrain from posting your marketing related website when leaving a reply. I’ll only give you this one warning.

Sincerely,

KAZI HAMIDULLAH

Oh, also, Al gave up any hope of making anything after three years of buying energy drinks and Amway teas to keep his point value requirements up for each month.

The BBB is a joke. They only report on those that have complained to the BBB and the complaints are private. It’s an outdated service that exists for one reason, to encourage shoppers to believe the site they are dealing with is viable. I tend to worry when I see a BBB logo on website because it makes me wonder why they would need to take that step. In order to have that logo, businesses pay about $600 a year. It’s all BS. I don’t see a BBB logo on Amazon.com.

Kazi, my advice to you is to wise up and run away from Amway as fast as you can. If you are already paying in hopes to making money someday, I’d love for you to contribute your experience! I offered this before to someone and for some reason, they never responded. I gave them access to author their own posts and everything. If you can tell us all how much you spend each month and how much you earn each month, then I’ll give you a voice.

I don’t believe in luck, but you will need something like it to survive the ordeal you are about to face with Amway. I wish you the best and hope you don’t suffer too much.

All that will be in that corner is when i start an ibo/customer drop an ibo/customer, and my percentage totals. My income overall will be kept to your emails in privacy. Not that I have anything to hide it’s just not public knowledge

Thanks
Tom

I understand the incentives are there, they have to be to get people interested. It is not to far from joining Sam’s Club to get discount items, except there are no tiers of savings. For all intensive purposes, Quixtar is an affiliate program which anyone can sign up and sell with.

The darker side is that there is a serious campaign that lures people in to buying products from Quixtar or through Quixtar. This results in a bit of an unrealistic consumption of products to keep point value. Myself, I have no interest in energy drinks, teas, or 95% of the products offered. Then again, I am not most people as I am a vegetarian and buy only brands I deem socially responsible (this is not an invitation to discuss whether QUixtar products are or are not socially responsible).

As for partnerships, I am partnered with Adobe, one of the largest software makers in the world. Was it difficult do become a partner? Not at all, I simply joined under their partner program. Doing a quick search and I see that anyone can be a Petco affiliate, a Barnes & Noble affiliate, and I’m sure the rest of the list that Quixtar holds. Anyone can partner with these companies, so long as you get your business license and Tax ID/EID number.

Maybe I should partner with all the partners that Quixtar did and sell their products on this website to demonstrate what I mean. You can do the same by buying a web domain like ‘ilovepuppiestodeath.com’ and selling petco.com products via the affiliate program.

Let it be publicly known that I will email you directly with access information to your own corner of this website to record your journey with Quixtar. I am interested to see if you can back up your two claims:

1. in 6 months you will be at the top of the Quixtar scale

2a. in 1 month you will have 8 IBOs who are active under you
2b. in 1 month you will have 4 customers that have placed at least one order

Are you ready?

I am at the 9% part of the scale, meaning I get 9% back on every dime I spend
You are my IBO and are at 3%, meaning you get three percent of your money back
I as your upline get my 9%pv (personal volume) plus the business’ 6%bv (business volume)

Meaning:
I spent 100 last month, I get $9
You spent 100 last month you get $3
Business spent 200 I get $12

My bonus check for that month is $21
So I spent $100 on stuff I needed and got $21 back as a thank you. And it does go up exponentially, all the way up to 25%

I (25%) get 25 back off that $100
You (15%) get $15 off your hundred
I (10%) get $20 of the BV
My total is $45
and that is w/o the bonuses and with only one IBO….. I when i start next month will have 8 IBOs and 4 customers….
Customers in this sense are people that have access to the site to shop and buy, just don’t see the rewards, all they get are the discounts.

And, as far as being overpriced. I live in PA and just bought a can of red bull ( the small one) for 3 dollars. I can go online and get XS which is a healthier energy drink, by the case, for approximately $2/can. So I honestly don’t see how they are shafting anyone as I have heard from other people in other forums. It’s not low quality, it doesn’t taste like crap, and if you don’t like it you have a prepaid return shipping label, you wend it back and get a 100% return of the money you spent on the product, no questions asked. Also look at the Affiliate websites that approached Quixtar to become a part of the website:
petmeds.com
barnesandnobles.com
shop.com
omahasteaks.com
petco.com
and many more….

surf quixtar.com and you will see what i am talking about…..
Later On
Tom

I must admit that your newest post has not improved in the category of readability, but after rereading it a couple times I got the gist. I’m going to be frank and open here, I was pushing your buttons and this response is real. You do need to consider the way you write. If you want to be effective in your online conquests, you must improve your English skills.

Myself, when I was in High School in the late 80s, I nearly failed my English courses, getting D’s and such. I excelled and majored in Math, Science, and Technology, but English didn’t interest me or connect with me. Besides being a web developer, a photographer, a business owner, and a myriad of other things, I am and have been a musician for years. I started my business as a means to be free of a 9 to 5 job so that I could have the flexibility to perform tours and such.

Over the past few days, I’ve been going through my song ideas an lyrics from the early 90s. What I’ve seen is terrible grammar and misspellings galore. I probably would have kept at that level, but thanks to the advent of BBSs and later the internet, I’ve been proactive about improving my English. As I’ve never been a book reader due to eye strain issues, I hadn’t had the visual memory of the correct spelling of words. Going online changed this as I don’t suffer from eyestrain with a monitor. I strengthened my skills when I became active in first BBS posting and later the internet with forums.

Who wants to look like an idiot? I certainly don’t. Who likes to be wrong? Maybe some depressed nut bags like it, but generally I’d say people like being right. People kill people to prove they are right every day. Obviously, it is vital to communicate as best as you can to prove your point. So I ask you to take some more time in preparing your posts. Read through them with the same fervor that you have in keeping this dialog going. If you don’t, you risk being discounted entirely.

Now, in response to your last post, you should have a look at the latest post on Achtung-Al, it may be down on Quixtar, but it also provides a good argument for why you should consider other revenue sources.

The main point about this site is not to say that you can’t make money with Quixtar, it is to bring to attention the unlikelihood of making money. You admitted that possibly 90% of those that try Quixtar fail. You have implied that the reason they fail is that they don’t stick with it and try to get better at it. You can make money and succeed, but only if you get enough people under you.

Now, have you considered the mental/spiritual ramifications of succeeding with Quixtar? It only works when you get enough people in your downline. As you know, the pressure is on the new IBOs to keep a point value, which in turn gets a lot of IBOs to buy from themselves in hopes that someone will buy products from them someday. This is entirely a stressful position to be in; to succeed they need to keep point value, but no one is buying, so they buy the products for themselves using the justification of ‘I could be buying similar products from other sources, but buying from myself keeps my point value.’

Do you not see the big picture?

The cast:
1. New IBOs who buy from themselves $200 a month worth of energy drinks and tea, and maybe some of the few commercial products that Quixtar offers at no savings when compared to a real grocery store.

2. The Lower Upline who have been with it for years who are constantly eying their coworkers at their day jobs as potential candidates for becoming their downline. They have managed to get a few people under them, so they feel better and buy less from themselves, but are trying hard to get to the point where their downline gets them to break even.

3. The Higher Upline who are mentoring the Lower Upline, urging them to sign as many people up as possible. Telling them to get their friends in family involved. Telling them to ask those folks if they would be interested in making an extra $1000 a month (the hook). The Higher Upline are more concerned about getting the Lower Upline to do the work for them as they have put in their time and spent more than enough to get there. Call it just dues.

4. The Organization made up from some Higher Upline that band together to create a bigger presence and circus in hopes to convince the Lower Upline and New IBOs that there is hope. These guys hold meetings, seminars which they may or may not charge for, provide tools for sale, and need to keep as many as possible below them in that position for as long as possible.

5. The Jewels made up of the top echelon who collect from everyone beneath them and do not need to do anything other than sit back and collect. These guys just want to showboat to encourage the millions that try Quixtar to keep with it, that they too can be on that stage.

These five ‘characters’ I described above function so that the lowest try to climb up top, but those at the top only want those beneath to keep trying no matter the cost or chance of success. It makes them money. The system needs churn of those who try and never succeed, the ones that buy $200 worth of products each month to keep the overall sales figures high.

Do you not get it? The idea is to suck you dry and keep you in the system long enough until you realize it is heartless and nearly impossible. Until you realize that in order to succeed, you need to cause financial suffering for all those below you. It isn’t a win-win scenario, it is a profit-loss scenario.

If you compound all the time spent in training, at meetings, doing research, and reading the tools suggested, how is that profitable? You could have gotten a second job at WalMart and made $2000 - $5000 a year extra.

Face it, if you want to make $1000 in a day, you will need to find a different source of revenue and work for it.

Also, the independent reviews I got from Al’s friends that tried the Quixtar products were that they don’t want to order a case of an exclusive energy drink through a friend, they want to go to the store and choose a drink from a wall of coolers.